I agree that weapons and items need to be fixed if their broken, a la the Bee. Not everything needs to be as tough-as-nails as games from the 8-bit era or Dark Souls but a game devoid of any challenge just gets boring really fast. Originally posted by Zesty:If items are broken, stupidly OP and/or not working as intended they need a nerf, simple as that.Ĭhallenge is important. Learn about the games mechanics and how to build around different items you don't need the UCP for diversity.Ĭhallenge is important. There is only so much damage you need to put out to kill stuff reliably and all these cheesy Noobfleet, Beehawk and whatnot 'builds' are overkill for 90% of the game. If you are sick of using the same 5 items and building your character the same way just stop it.Īll the items are there and most of them don't even need a buff. Lots of different items are viable, even great at 72 and up to OP8. If items are broken, stupidly OP and/or not working as intended they need a nerf, simple as that.įixing the Bee was one of the best things they could've done and it is still broken. For the 90% that do play for the loot, I see no reason why the patch is a bad idea. Besides, I assumed most people played BL2 for the loot, not for a challenge. I also don't believe that keeping the weapons as is will increase challenge. With the patch, running bolt-actions are perfectly viable and change up the playstyle immensely. I'm sick of building my Sal with Harolds and Norfleets just like everyone else.

The patch buffs the weapons that were by all accounts and purposes useless once you hit Lvl.72, opening up many different playstyles. I understand that there needs to be a hierarchy of power to the weapons but in vanilla, there aren't many weapons that are actually used during endgame. Originally posted by Zesty:I've never understood the idea of nerfing weapons in a PvE game.

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